Condescending coworker insults “uneducated” colleagues, says they deserve less pay despite needing constant help with basic tasks: ‘She’s very loud and vocal about her opinions, and can be very abrasive in her treatment of others’

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  • "Co-worker calling other co-workers 'uneducated'"

    "Her only past work experience is a retail chain store, so it's possible that she doesn't know how to behave in an office setting"
  • My (23F) co-worker (22F) has been having conversations with multiple co-workers about pay, ever since she found out that she was hired at a lower rate than new people that got hired after her.
  • For context, I was hired and am currently making the same rate as her. Recently she's found out that others were hired at a rate $1-$2 higher, and has since then been asking what everybody makes. That in of itself seems fine, whatever, pay visibility, etc.,
  • However, she has implied to multiple people without degrees that, while it makes sense that they're making less money, it doesn't make sense in her case, since she has a degree.
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  • In talking to me - A degree-less idiot - about the pay, she said, "No offense, but other co-worker told me you don't have a Bachelor's, but I do..."
  • The insult was implied and I likely would have just let it lie, but I just found out she told another co- worker, "I don't want to say you're uneducated, but you are.”
  • She's getting her Master's in criminal justice (I believe), but the whole thing is very ironic because she's considered one of the worst case writers in the company - I've routinely had to correct her
  • writing. She's very loud and vocal about her opinions, and can be very abrasive in her treatment of others. She also has shared details of her life that are not appropriate for work.
  • Her only past work experience is a retail chain store, so it's possible that she doesn't know how to behave in an office setting. I do think this is a case of ignorance / ignorant bias versus maliciousness, but it doesn't feel right to just let this pass.
  • I was going to talk to my supervisor about the incident today, but I wanted to know if this is worthy of going to HR, or if anyone who has experienced
  • something similar could offer advice on how to handle the situation. Or, should I just let the whole thing lie. Any advice is appreciated!
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  • oldcreaker I'd cut off any future discussion like this and tell her she needs to take it to management if she has an issue with it.
  • Connect_Read6782 Education does not mean smarter and more capable. I don't have a four year degree, yet I manage some that do.
  • PeaceOutFace You'll continue to find that some of the least able to function/perform/behave effectively in the corporate world are those with Masters and PhDs.
  • Constant-Ad-8871 This isnt an HR issue at this time. Manager can handle this type of conversation with the employee. She isn't doing anything illegal, she's
  • just super annoying, r de, and condescending and creating uncomfortable conversations. All things a manager is there to address.
  • You can address it, too. Next time she talks to you about it, shut her down. “Jane, you've told me multiple times you don't like your pay rate. I can't change it for you, so talk to manager
  • about it. I don't want to listen to this anymore". Or "Jane, you keep telling me you are better educated and deserve higher pay, but I keep finding mistakes you made. Can you be more careful with your work product?"
  • Make a list of the conversations she has had with you—include dates, times, who else was there, and how it affected getting work done. If the list looks worthwhile to provide to
  • your manager, give it to him/her. Otherwise just tell manager that coworker keeps complaining to everyone (boss, she's
  • complained to me about this at least three times and I know she does it other people too) about her pay and it's causing disruption.
  • Remember that it IS legal for people to ask about and discuss their pay, so you will want to focus on her complaining and saying she should get more, and that is the problem you and others. are having with her.
  • rando439 Ignoring the fact that educated people without any degree exist, there's educated, there is relevantly educated, and there is being educated and able to correctly apply whatever
  • education they may have to the task at hand. Only the last is useful once hired at a job if a degree is the only education being considered. I've also had the experience that those without degrees,
  • and many without obviously relevant degrees, are better able to learn once at the job and will be more successful than those who have a degee but their education stopped the second it was awarded.
  • However, there is no way to convince someone with a degree that they feel is relevant that they are not automatically better than someone without a degree. I get it. Getting a degree is
  • expensive, may be difficult, probably requires some sacrifice, and almost always requires life to go right for just long enough so you don't have to drop out.
  • Unfortunately, that experience doesn't translate well into deciding who is better than someone else in the workplace.
  • Disengage regarding this topic and start talking about motorcycles, knitting, or dogs whenever it comes up. Continue to do your job. If her errors are taking up an inordinate amount of your time, bring it up to your own supervisor for resolution.

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